1 00:00:40,540 --> 00:00:43,440 - Hey, hey, hey! 2 00:00:45,410 --> 00:00:48,310 - It's one of the most rugged and remote destinations 3 00:00:48,340 --> 00:00:50,200 in the United States. 4 00:00:50,240 --> 00:00:53,900 Everything out here will bite, poke, or freak you out. 5 00:00:53,930 --> 00:00:55,420 Everything. 6 00:00:58,180 --> 00:00:59,450 - People live in cubicles 7 00:00:59,490 --> 00:01:01,460 and they're the king of their domain. 8 00:01:01,490 --> 00:01:04,290 Out here, I mean, you ain't king of shit. 9 00:01:07,770 --> 00:01:15,330 ♫ - I took a walk through this beautiful world 10 00:01:15,370 --> 00:01:20,480 ♫ Felt the cool rain on my shoulder 11 00:01:20,510 --> 00:01:26,930 ♫ Found something good in this beautiful world 12 00:01:26,960 --> 00:01:33,210 ♫ I felt the rain getting colder 13 00:01:33,250 --> 00:01:38,940 ♫ Sha-la-la-la-la, Sha-la-la-la-la-la 14 00:01:38,980 --> 00:01:45,190 ♫ Sha-la-la-la-la, Sha-la-la-la-la-la 15 00:01:45,220 --> 00:01:48,330 ♫ La 16 00:02:13,490 --> 00:02:15,320 - Stick around and tell your friends 17 00:02:15,360 --> 00:02:17,500 from the border to the basin out here in West Texas. 18 00:02:17,530 --> 00:02:19,330 Great to be here tonight. 19 00:02:34,690 --> 00:02:39,210 - The dream of the American West was come out here, 20 00:02:39,240 --> 00:02:40,466 get your own little piece of paradise, 21 00:02:40,490 --> 00:02:42,280 you work hard, raise cattle. 22 00:02:42,320 --> 00:02:44,350 You make enough money to look after the family. 23 00:02:44,390 --> 00:02:47,360 - Sure, I'd love to cook you one. 24 00:03:16,520 --> 00:03:18,460 - This land, it's really for one thing, 25 00:03:18,490 --> 00:03:20,290 and that's producing livestock. 26 00:03:20,320 --> 00:03:22,320 They've tried to farm it, it doesn't work. 27 00:03:22,360 --> 00:03:24,430 And, you know, except for beautiful views, 28 00:03:24,460 --> 00:03:27,260 that's what it can produce. 29 00:03:27,290 --> 00:03:29,470 - West Texas and Big Bend, this area, 30 00:03:29,500 --> 00:03:32,260 are you the platonic ideal of the Texan? 31 00:03:32,300 --> 00:03:35,270 The American hero. Lone rider on a horse. 32 00:03:35,300 --> 00:03:38,270 Big empty spaces. Mexican music. 33 00:03:38,300 --> 00:03:39,300 Mexican food. 34 00:03:39,340 --> 00:03:41,410 - This is still where the punchiest cowboys 35 00:03:41,440 --> 00:03:42,510 in the United States are. 36 00:03:42,550 --> 00:03:44,340 It don't get no rougher. 37 00:03:44,380 --> 00:03:47,350 - I mean, we're 120 miles from the nearest Walmart. 38 00:03:47,380 --> 00:03:50,320 40 miles to a tank of gas or a loaf of bread. 39 00:03:50,350 --> 00:03:52,590 - Out here, pretty much everything is five hours away. 40 00:04:09,540 --> 00:04:11,340 - And the property has been in the family 41 00:04:11,370 --> 00:04:12,370 how many generations now? 42 00:04:12,410 --> 00:04:14,410 - This is the fourth generation. 43 00:04:14,440 --> 00:04:16,380 - Fifth. - Fifth generation. 44 00:04:16,410 --> 00:04:17,596 My granddad came here in the '30s. 45 00:04:17,620 --> 00:04:20,620 Bodie's family came out here in 1880. 46 00:04:20,660 --> 00:04:23,560 - Not a lot of people who are left get to do this. 47 00:04:27,730 --> 00:04:31,630 - The ranch is approximately 70,000 acres. 48 00:04:31,670 --> 00:04:34,600 We don't use anything other than a horse. 49 00:04:34,640 --> 00:04:37,330 No four-wheelers, no helicopters. 50 00:04:37,360 --> 00:04:39,096 - Excuse me for saying so, that seems a little stubborn. 51 00:04:39,120 --> 00:04:42,540 I mean, as far as practicality. 52 00:04:42,570 --> 00:04:44,650 - He is so opposed to change. 53 00:04:46,160 --> 00:04:49,100 - It's not all bad, is it? - No! 54 00:04:49,130 --> 00:04:50,620 - I mean, these guys, they love it. 55 00:04:50,650 --> 00:04:52,480 I mean, they get up every morning 56 00:04:52,520 --> 00:04:55,480 and this is their office. 57 00:05:21,680 --> 00:05:24,480 Bodie, he had his teeth kicked out. 58 00:05:24,510 --> 00:05:25,720 - By? - A cow. 59 00:05:25,760 --> 00:05:27,690 - Ooh. - And then he got in that chute 60 00:05:27,720 --> 00:05:31,450 with the steer and knocked him all out again. 61 00:05:31,490 --> 00:05:34,590 - Hey, hey, hey, hey! - Hey! 62 00:05:36,010 --> 00:05:40,560 - Oh, there goes Evan. - She's about to rope. 63 00:05:45,810 --> 00:05:48,500 - How old were you when you learned to ride? 64 00:05:48,540 --> 00:05:49,680 - Oh, gosh. 65 00:05:49,710 --> 00:05:52,400 - She had a horse when she was three. 66 00:05:52,440 --> 00:05:54,650 - Three. - Yeah. 67 00:05:54,680 --> 00:05:56,720 Evan shows horses all over. 68 00:05:56,750 --> 00:06:00,450 She is top five in the world right now. 69 00:06:00,480 --> 00:06:01,736 - In the cow horse, you have to show 70 00:06:01,760 --> 00:06:03,590 how well your horse can do, 71 00:06:03,620 --> 00:06:05,170 you know, different maneuvers and... 72 00:06:05,210 --> 00:06:07,560 - Oh, here comes Levins. - How old? 73 00:06:07,590 --> 00:06:09,520 - He's ten. Watch this. 74 00:06:09,560 --> 00:06:12,490 Damn. 75 00:06:12,530 --> 00:06:15,430 Is that hilarious? 76 00:06:15,460 --> 00:06:17,570 - It's killing me. 77 00:06:17,600 --> 00:06:20,430 - Way to go, Levin! 78 00:06:28,750 --> 00:06:33,720 - Oh, sweet little hunter 79 00:06:33,750 --> 00:06:38,660 My back into your side 80 00:06:38,690 --> 00:06:43,450 - There we go. 81 00:06:43,490 --> 00:06:45,700 - The cabrito that we're eating, 82 00:06:45,730 --> 00:06:48,770 yesterday was a live goat. 83 00:06:48,800 --> 00:06:52,530 - Oh, killer so graceful 84 00:06:52,570 --> 00:06:54,500 - We like it spicy. 85 00:06:54,530 --> 00:06:58,260 Jalapeños and onions and, you know, fresh tomatoes. 86 00:06:58,300 --> 00:07:00,610 - If you got a bunch of gringos, it's perfect. 87 00:07:02,750 --> 00:07:06,790 - How Mexican is West Texas? - This is where it is. 88 00:07:06,820 --> 00:07:08,620 - On the other side of that mountain, 89 00:07:08,650 --> 00:07:09,820 20 miles is the crow flies. 90 00:07:09,860 --> 00:07:12,690 - Those flavors, those sounds. 91 00:07:12,720 --> 00:07:14,800 - That's yours also, right? - Oh, yeah. 92 00:07:14,830 --> 00:07:16,830 - I learned to talk Spanish 93 00:07:16,870 --> 00:07:18,830 nearly before I learned to talk English. 94 00:07:18,870 --> 00:07:20,770 - It's the good vanilla from Mexico. 95 00:07:20,800 --> 00:07:24,700 - Old Mexico or New Mexico? - Old Mexico. 96 00:07:24,740 --> 00:07:26,840 - Chuy's mother comes from Mexico. 97 00:07:26,880 --> 00:07:30,710 - South of Ojinaga, right? - That's right. 98 00:07:30,740 --> 00:07:32,640 - And how long you guys been riding together? 99 00:07:32,680 --> 00:07:33,856 - Oh, me and him? - Yeah, you and him. 100 00:07:33,880 --> 00:07:35,510 - 35 years. 101 00:07:35,540 --> 00:07:38,720 - Yeah, it's an awesome way of life. 102 00:07:39,890 --> 00:07:42,690 - Jalapeño cheese grits. - Nice! 103 00:07:42,720 --> 00:07:44,790 - Of course, there are buttermilk biscuits. 104 00:07:44,830 --> 00:07:48,550 - This is an area of Texas that is legendary for... 105 00:07:48,590 --> 00:07:49,830 Whatever you might have thought 106 00:07:49,860 --> 00:07:52,660 you were going to do here, nature wins. 107 00:07:52,700 --> 00:07:53,800 - Always. - Always. 108 00:07:53,830 --> 00:07:57,320 - Always. - It'll not rain for 20 years. 109 00:07:57,350 --> 00:07:59,676 And you just stay as long as you can till it starts raining. 110 00:07:59,700 --> 00:08:02,600 - Yep. - So how do you make a living? 111 00:08:02,640 --> 00:08:04,530 - Basically, dig in. 112 00:08:04,570 --> 00:08:06,570 - Work like hell and don't spend any money. 113 00:08:06,610 --> 00:08:09,570 - Yeah. 114 00:08:09,610 --> 00:08:12,890 - This table, right here, is filled with people 115 00:08:12,920 --> 00:08:16,720 who truly care about the land and what happens to it. 116 00:08:16,750 --> 00:08:18,690 - You just have to have the heart to stay 117 00:08:18,720 --> 00:08:19,650 and want to stay and do it 118 00:08:19,690 --> 00:08:21,790 and make something of it while you're here. 119 00:08:21,830 --> 00:08:24,690 If you got a weak heart, you won't last. 120 00:08:24,730 --> 00:08:26,690 - I mean, I'm graduating next year 121 00:08:26,730 --> 00:08:27,916 and I'm going to go to college. 122 00:08:27,940 --> 00:08:29,840 Go through law school, finish. 123 00:08:29,870 --> 00:08:31,630 But I want to come back out here. 124 00:08:31,670 --> 00:08:34,630 There are kids that are my age that will never see this. 125 00:08:34,670 --> 00:08:38,670 Never have this, never be able to know people like this. 126 00:08:38,710 --> 00:08:41,740 - And that's, I mean... - Priceless. 127 00:08:41,780 --> 00:08:43,570 - Yeah, how can you say no to that? 128 00:08:43,610 --> 00:08:45,850 - If you get to eat three good meals a day, 129 00:08:45,890 --> 00:08:47,680 - and be happy. - Mm-hmm. 130 00:08:47,720 --> 00:08:50,580 - Being happy is more important than anything. 131 00:08:57,730 --> 00:08:59,760 Yeah! 132 00:09:29,310 --> 00:09:35,830 - So, how else is the area changing? 133 00:09:35,870 --> 00:09:37,660 I rode for three hours. 134 00:09:37,700 --> 00:09:40,870 Some ghost towns, dead gas stations, 135 00:09:40,910 --> 00:09:42,940 and nothing but nothing, and, you know, 136 00:09:42,980 --> 00:09:44,880 suddenly we arrive in Marfa. 137 00:09:57,130 --> 00:09:59,930 - And it's like, uh, "Would you like some bruschetta? 138 00:09:59,960 --> 00:10:03,760 Some salumi," you know. Some $900 ponchos. 139 00:10:03,790 --> 00:10:05,760 - That's right 140 00:10:05,790 --> 00:10:06,806 - What... what's going on? 141 00:10:06,830 --> 00:10:10,450 - Clearly, it's not the old, old family Marfa. 142 00:10:15,910 --> 00:10:17,740 - You're everything 143 00:10:17,770 --> 00:10:20,880 - Marfa has become a pretty distinct culture. 144 00:10:20,910 --> 00:10:24,880 Tourist town, art town, cowboy town. 145 00:10:24,920 --> 00:10:27,990 It's just got it all. You can get calamari. 146 00:10:28,020 --> 00:10:29,960 In Marfa. Who'd a thunk it? 147 00:10:29,990 --> 00:10:33,890 20 years ago, nobody even knew what the word meant. 148 00:10:36,760 --> 00:10:40,900 - And it feels like 149 00:10:40,930 --> 00:10:45,760 And it feels like 150 00:10:45,800 --> 00:10:48,700 And it feels like 151 00:10:50,080 --> 00:10:54,010 And it feels like 152 00:10:58,500 --> 00:11:01,880 - This is the first bar I've ever been into where, uh, 153 00:11:01,920 --> 00:11:04,780 the person next to me is petting a goat. 154 00:11:04,820 --> 00:11:07,720 In here? 155 00:11:07,750 --> 00:11:08,936 - Sometimes we got... - You got all types. 156 00:11:08,960 --> 00:11:10,890 - Dogs come in without their owners. 157 00:11:10,930 --> 00:11:12,760 As long as everybody behaves, 158 00:11:12,790 --> 00:11:14,006 whether you got two legs or four, 159 00:11:14,030 --> 00:11:15,730 everything's good. 160 00:11:15,760 --> 00:11:19,940 - When it rains flew up in Memphis 161 00:11:19,970 --> 00:11:23,940 Memphis make you see the scar 162 00:11:23,980 --> 00:11:26,840 I was heading west through Dallas 163 00:11:26,870 --> 00:11:28,026 - You've seen a bit of the world. 164 00:11:28,050 --> 00:11:29,740 You've seen a lot of the world. 165 00:11:29,770 --> 00:11:31,910 - I ran away from home a lot as a kid. 166 00:11:31,950 --> 00:11:33,880 - Mm-hmm. - And by the time I was 16, 167 00:11:33,920 --> 00:11:35,090 I got real good at it. 168 00:11:35,120 --> 00:11:37,750 I went to Alaska, then I came back. 169 00:11:37,780 --> 00:11:40,060 Joined the military. Cowboying, roughnecking. 170 00:11:40,090 --> 00:11:42,750 - Running drugs and guns across the border? 171 00:11:42,790 --> 00:11:44,510 - I did run guns south. 172 00:11:44,550 --> 00:11:47,550 And the ATF knows. They got an open file. 173 00:11:47,580 --> 00:11:50,040 - But what motivated you to get into the bar business? 174 00:11:50,070 --> 00:11:53,940 - Well, every cowboy has a dream of owning a saloon. 175 00:11:53,970 --> 00:11:56,080 - I did not know that. - Mm-hmm. 176 00:11:56,110 --> 00:11:58,040 - It's been around for some time under various... 177 00:11:58,080 --> 00:12:00,080 - Oh, almost a hundred years. 178 00:12:00,110 --> 00:12:01,910 There's many different cultures 179 00:12:01,940 --> 00:12:03,570 that come through here. 180 00:12:03,600 --> 00:12:05,840 Hipsters, blue-collar city workers, 181 00:12:05,880 --> 00:12:08,120 and I wanted everybody to be able to have a good time, 182 00:12:08,160 --> 00:12:10,990 no matter who or what or where. 183 00:12:11,020 --> 00:12:12,820 There ain't going to be but one intimidating 184 00:12:12,850 --> 00:12:15,060 son of a bitch in my bar, and that's me. 185 00:12:20,620 --> 00:12:24,000 You're seeing this town change in a lot of big ways. 186 00:12:24,040 --> 00:12:26,000 - Mm-hmm. - Every single person 187 00:12:26,040 --> 00:12:28,870 I've talked to down here is telling me the same thing. 188 00:12:28,900 --> 00:12:31,110 That wall ain't never getting built around here. 189 00:12:31,150 --> 00:12:33,600 - My ranch is on the river. - It's on the border. 190 00:12:33,630 --> 00:12:35,080 We can't survive without the river. 191 00:12:35,120 --> 00:12:37,910 And we can't survive without the people 192 00:12:37,950 --> 00:12:39,080 on that side of the river. 193 00:12:39,120 --> 00:12:41,980 - They can't survive without us. - Right. 194 00:12:42,020 --> 00:12:44,920 - That and they're our friends for God's sakes. 195 00:12:44,950 --> 00:12:47,090 Loyalty is a big thing in Texas, 196 00:12:47,130 --> 00:12:49,030 and you ain't gonna build a fence between me 197 00:12:49,060 --> 00:12:50,820 and my loyal friends. 198 00:12:50,860 --> 00:12:54,960 - Every old school Anglo rancher I've met here 199 00:12:55,000 --> 00:12:56,930 speaks Spanish fluently. 200 00:12:56,960 --> 00:13:01,590 - Uh-huh. It's a mutual respect to speak a little Spanish. 201 00:13:01,620 --> 00:13:04,110 And it's respect for them to learn a little English. 202 00:13:04,140 --> 00:13:06,840 But you know as well as I do, if you go to Europe, 203 00:13:06,870 --> 00:13:10,120 it's not hard to find somebody in France speaking English. 204 00:13:10,150 --> 00:13:11,950 - Everybody. - They can... 205 00:13:11,980 --> 00:13:13,950 - Yeah. - They don't mind. 206 00:13:13,980 --> 00:13:15,640 They're not offended. 207 00:13:15,670 --> 00:13:17,880 You know, Americans have a tendency to want to be 208 00:13:17,920 --> 00:13:19,950 all butthurt about it. 209 00:13:19,990 --> 00:13:21,850 But here, we're just not. It's... it's... 210 00:13:21,890 --> 00:13:24,650 That's just being a good human being. 211 00:13:24,680 --> 00:13:27,170 - Why is it so goddamn hard to be a good person these days? 212 00:13:50,470 --> 00:13:53,020 - Right now in Marfa, it's 75 degrees. 213 00:13:53,060 --> 00:13:56,160 Low tonight, only 61. Not that cool, honestly. 214 00:13:59,130 --> 00:14:01,130 I'm David Beebe with you till one a.m. 215 00:14:01,170 --> 00:14:03,960 It's time to go outside and look up at the stars 216 00:14:04,000 --> 00:14:07,930 and enjoy the place that you live. 217 00:14:44,970 --> 00:14:46,730 - This part of the state 218 00:14:46,760 --> 00:14:49,040 was always called El Despoblado, 219 00:14:49,080 --> 00:14:53,050 the unpopulated zone, which it never really was. 220 00:15:01,160 --> 00:15:03,020 - Born and bred near here? 221 00:15:03,060 --> 00:15:05,090 - Yeah, a couple hundred miles east. Not far. 222 00:15:05,130 --> 00:15:06,316 - That's considered close around here. 223 00:15:06,340 --> 00:15:07,990 - Close, yeah. - Yeah. 224 00:15:08,030 --> 00:15:09,990 - The forest still makes me uneasy. 225 00:15:10,030 --> 00:15:12,130 Surrounded by trees, I get uneasy, 226 00:15:12,170 --> 00:15:13,240 'cause I can't see. 227 00:15:13,270 --> 00:15:16,000 - Um. - I can't see far enough. 228 00:15:16,030 --> 00:15:18,070 - Now, I guess unlike a lot of Texans 229 00:15:18,110 --> 00:15:23,970 who take a rather romantic view of those early days, 230 00:15:24,010 --> 00:15:27,250 you seem to view it in a darker prism. 231 00:15:27,290 --> 00:15:28,980 - It is dark. 232 00:15:29,010 --> 00:15:30,236 The story of Texas can get a little... 233 00:15:30,260 --> 00:15:31,980 It gets a little too polished. 234 00:15:32,020 --> 00:15:34,290 It was a conquest, and people forget that. 235 00:15:34,330 --> 00:15:36,120 There were people here. 236 00:15:36,160 --> 00:15:38,330 The Spanish and the Mexican authorities 237 00:15:38,370 --> 00:15:40,160 wanted to exterminate the Apaches. 238 00:15:40,200 --> 00:15:43,130 They created a society for the extermination 239 00:15:43,170 --> 00:15:44,240 of the barbarians. 240 00:15:44,270 --> 00:15:46,030 - So the classic Cowboy and Indian film 241 00:15:46,060 --> 00:15:50,210 of scalp-hungry Indians, uh, was not really the case. 242 00:15:50,240 --> 00:15:51,356 - Well, they took scalps too, 243 00:15:51,380 --> 00:15:53,800 but they kind of learned from the Anglos. 244 00:15:53,830 --> 00:15:56,070 And then when the Texans came in, it intensified. 245 00:15:56,110 --> 00:15:59,320 If you were a rancher coming out here in the 1870s, 246 00:15:59,350 --> 00:16:01,250 you better have a lot of guns. 247 00:16:01,290 --> 00:16:04,010 - Because you were an invader. - Right. 248 00:16:04,050 --> 00:16:05,306 - And the people you were invading 249 00:16:05,330 --> 00:16:08,120 knew you were an invader. 250 00:16:16,200 --> 00:16:18,200 - Oh, damn. 251 00:16:19,620 --> 00:16:23,240 You know, if you look at the legend of this place, 252 00:16:23,270 --> 00:16:25,280 you know, was it the history of violence 253 00:16:25,310 --> 00:16:27,800 and the harshness of the landscape 254 00:16:27,830 --> 00:16:29,310 that preserved it for so long? 255 00:16:29,350 --> 00:16:32,150 - Yeah, West Texas stayed wild, 256 00:16:32,180 --> 00:16:33,250 and it's still wild. 257 00:16:33,280 --> 00:16:36,250 People lived in this landscape for 14,000 years. 258 00:16:36,290 --> 00:16:40,840 Through all these different nation-states and empires 259 00:16:40,880 --> 00:16:45,160 that have swept over them, they just... they persist. 260 00:17:01,450 --> 00:17:03,870 - We're going to catch the arch. 261 00:17:03,900 --> 00:17:06,420 The arch of light that is gonna just envelope 262 00:17:06,460 --> 00:17:08,220 this motif right here, 263 00:17:08,250 --> 00:17:12,390 that represents the place where the sun was born. 264 00:17:17,540 --> 00:17:20,090 Welcome to the White Shaman site. 265 00:17:20,120 --> 00:17:24,200 This is one of the oldest pictorial creation narratives 266 00:17:24,230 --> 00:17:26,160 in all of North America. 267 00:17:26,200 --> 00:17:29,440 The mural tells the story about the death of the sun, 268 00:17:29,480 --> 00:17:31,860 the sacrifice that takes place 269 00:17:31,890 --> 00:17:34,240 so that the sun can be reborn the next day. 270 00:17:35,690 --> 00:17:41,460 I had the honor of having a Huichol shaman 271 00:17:41,490 --> 00:17:43,420 come up from Mexico to this site, 272 00:17:43,460 --> 00:17:46,220 and he started weeping. 273 00:17:46,250 --> 00:17:49,150 And they said, "They're all here. 274 00:17:49,190 --> 00:17:52,230 "All of our grandfather's grandfather's grandfathers, 275 00:17:52,260 --> 00:17:54,300 they're all here." 276 00:18:13,520 --> 00:18:16,250 - So here we are at Alpine, Texas, 277 00:18:16,280 --> 00:18:19,910 talking about the beginning of civilization 278 00:18:19,940 --> 00:18:22,500 on the North American continent. 279 00:18:22,530 --> 00:18:26,290 The earliest evidence of human existence 280 00:18:26,330 --> 00:18:28,430 in this area goes back how far? 281 00:18:28,470 --> 00:18:33,370 - Almost 15,000 years. 282 00:18:33,400 --> 00:18:36,300 The rock art in the Lower Pecos 283 00:18:36,340 --> 00:18:38,170 and along the Rio Grande, 284 00:18:38,200 --> 00:18:43,520 encapsulates not only their religion, but the cosmos. 285 00:18:43,550 --> 00:18:49,250 Why you had constellations at certain times of the year 286 00:18:49,280 --> 00:18:52,250 and where were they in relation to each other. 287 00:18:52,290 --> 00:18:53,420 The seasons. 288 00:18:53,460 --> 00:18:55,530 - Tony, sometimes I just want to scream 289 00:18:55,560 --> 00:18:58,460 because people will say, you know, 290 00:18:58,500 --> 00:19:01,230 "Well, did these people speak with a grunt?" 291 00:19:01,260 --> 00:19:04,230 I look at these murals and I see sophistication 292 00:19:04,260 --> 00:19:06,300 that we'd be hard-pressed with today. 293 00:19:06,330 --> 00:19:08,960 - I think sophistication is an overvalued term. 294 00:19:08,990 --> 00:19:11,200 Uh, well, what the hell do we mean by that anyway? 295 00:19:11,240 --> 00:19:12,270 Well... 296 00:19:12,310 --> 00:19:14,310 - I mean, still pretty much killing ourselves 297 00:19:14,340 --> 00:19:17,000 with spears and rocks, of one sort or another. 298 00:19:17,030 --> 00:19:20,490 - One of the important things you have to realize is that 299 00:19:20,520 --> 00:19:23,390 these people have the same brain 300 00:19:23,420 --> 00:19:25,420 that put a man on the moon. 301 00:19:25,460 --> 00:19:31,360 They were in tune with their universe and their environment. 302 00:19:31,390 --> 00:19:33,400 - Same brain, same brain. 303 00:19:33,430 --> 00:19:37,330 - I would not be surprised if the Lower Pecos art 304 00:19:37,360 --> 00:19:38,370 outlasts all of us. 305 00:19:38,400 --> 00:19:42,400 All of our monuments crumble to dust immediately. 306 00:19:42,440 --> 00:19:45,510 4,000 years later, White Shaman, still there. 307 00:19:45,550 --> 00:19:47,556 - I think they're going to have a tough time of interpreting 308 00:19:47,580 --> 00:19:49,410 what life was like on this planet. 309 00:19:49,450 --> 00:19:52,480 They'll be left with Betamax copies of "Three's Company" 310 00:19:52,520 --> 00:19:55,380 and, uh, you know, "Who's the Boss." 311 00:19:55,420 --> 00:19:59,280 Who lived on this planet and what went horribly wrong? 312 00:20:11,470 --> 00:20:14,570 Yeah! 313 00:21:01,970 --> 00:21:06,110 - You know, if you talk about life-changing events 314 00:21:06,140 --> 00:21:10,490 in any neighborhood, it's when the artists show up. 315 00:21:11,840 --> 00:21:15,530 - When my father Donald Judd came to Marfa 316 00:21:15,570 --> 00:21:17,460 in the early '70s, 317 00:21:17,500 --> 00:21:21,500 it was a ranching community and an old railroad town. 318 00:21:21,540 --> 00:21:24,540 - The legend is, of course, that he looked at a map 319 00:21:24,580 --> 00:21:28,100 and was looking to the least populated area of America 320 00:21:28,130 --> 00:21:29,650 and came out here. 321 00:21:29,680 --> 00:21:32,410 - Is that true? - Yeah, that is. 322 00:21:32,450 --> 00:21:35,620 I mean, he did a lot of looking for places that 323 00:21:35,660 --> 00:21:39,380 had very few people, and very few trees and lots of space. 324 00:21:39,420 --> 00:21:41,420 He had been working hard for so long. 325 00:21:41,450 --> 00:21:44,630 And I think coming out to Marfa was this reward. 326 00:21:55,740 --> 00:21:59,160 - Your dad was a giant of the art world 327 00:21:59,200 --> 00:22:03,370 in New York with an enduring, huge legacy. 328 00:22:03,410 --> 00:22:04,510 What's that like? 329 00:22:04,550 --> 00:22:07,130 - The thing with my dad is, like, he was like a buddy 330 00:22:07,170 --> 00:22:09,590 my whole life. 331 00:22:09,620 --> 00:22:11,730 He was literally, like, my tether 332 00:22:11,760 --> 00:22:14,490 to understanding the world. 333 00:22:18,970 --> 00:22:21,530 - Oh, wow. - Look at this. 334 00:22:21,560 --> 00:22:24,530 - There are people who make great food in Marfa 335 00:22:24,570 --> 00:22:26,570 that didn't open a restaurant. 336 00:22:26,600 --> 00:22:30,400 So this is the behind the scenes of yummy food 337 00:22:30,430 --> 00:22:32,680 that people make in their homes. 338 00:22:32,710 --> 00:22:36,160 Carmen's menudo and her blue corn tortillas. 339 00:22:36,200 --> 00:22:37,510 - Nice! 340 00:22:37,540 --> 00:22:41,650 Johnny Sufficool's mesquite bean flour empanadas. 341 00:22:43,860 --> 00:22:45,620 Malinda's queso fresco. 342 00:22:45,660 --> 00:22:49,420 - With chili's. - I love this, I love this. 343 00:22:49,450 --> 00:22:51,420 - And Ophelia's tamales over here. 344 00:22:51,460 --> 00:22:53,560 - Wow. 345 00:22:54,220 --> 00:22:58,630 When your dad came to town with nothing but love in his heart 346 00:22:58,670 --> 00:23:00,570 and a desire to make beautiful things, 347 00:23:00,600 --> 00:23:04,570 he ushered in this entire new world with the invasion 348 00:23:04,610 --> 00:23:07,510 of, you know, gourmet coffee or, you know, trained baristas. 349 00:23:07,540 --> 00:23:09,650 How did he feel about that? 350 00:23:09,680 --> 00:23:11,626 - I mean my dad made his own coffee every morning, 351 00:23:11,650 --> 00:23:15,200 so he wouldn't be that into the fancy coffee available now. 352 00:23:15,240 --> 00:23:16,386 But the people who come here now, 353 00:23:16,410 --> 00:23:19,590 as long as they're contributing to being a good citizen, 354 00:23:19,620 --> 00:23:22,730 it's actually a good thing that people are here. 355 00:24:03,670 --> 00:24:06,810 - Dos carne guisada, tambian a chile verde. 356 00:24:06,840 --> 00:24:08,500 - Chile verde? - Si. 357 00:24:13,810 --> 00:24:16,710 - What are you having? - I'll have a barbacoa. 358 00:24:16,750 --> 00:24:20,510 - Barbacoa taco. 359 00:24:20,540 --> 00:24:22,720 Most of the better restaurant chefs, 360 00:24:22,750 --> 00:24:24,666 you can find at least once a week getting their food here 361 00:24:24,690 --> 00:24:26,650 even if they're making food down at their place. 362 00:24:26,690 --> 00:24:28,790 - Unbelievable. - The gas station. 363 00:24:30,830 --> 00:24:32,730 - In the morning, everybody's here. 364 00:24:32,760 --> 00:24:34,606 It's all the border patrol guys. Like, all of them. 365 00:24:34,630 --> 00:24:35,636 - There you go. - You have a great day. 366 00:24:35,660 --> 00:24:37,660 - All the laborers in town, kids, 367 00:24:37,700 --> 00:24:39,670 the people that work at the radio station. 368 00:24:39,700 --> 00:24:42,530 It's like going to... yeah, like your abuela's house. 369 00:24:42,570 --> 00:24:44,810 - So you're both multitaskers. 370 00:24:44,840 --> 00:24:47,670 - You're a state employee a, uh... - County employee. 371 00:24:47,710 --> 00:24:49,610 - County employee. - Elected official, yeah. 372 00:24:49,640 --> 00:24:50,726 - Justice of the Peace? - Yes, sir. 373 00:24:50,750 --> 00:24:53,610 - What does that mean? - I'm like the small judge 374 00:24:53,650 --> 00:24:55,540 that reads you your rights when you go to jail. 375 00:24:55,580 --> 00:24:56,580 - Also a musician? 376 00:24:56,610 --> 00:24:58,620 - Yeah, a musician with Primo here. 377 00:24:58,650 --> 00:24:59,766 - Where? The... the... - The radio station? 378 00:24:59,790 --> 00:25:01,760 - I've been on the radio now for ten years. 379 00:25:01,790 --> 00:25:03,736 Ten years, every week. And he's been on the radio now 380 00:25:03,760 --> 00:25:05,800 - for, what, three? - Three or four years. 381 00:25:05,830 --> 00:25:07,800 - Restaurant business? - I have a burger and taco 382 00:25:07,830 --> 00:25:09,560 joint that's open on weekends. 383 00:25:09,590 --> 00:25:11,560 - Burger time. 384 00:25:11,600 --> 00:25:13,360 - A lot of multitasking around here. 385 00:25:13,390 --> 00:25:14,770 - People tend to... - You have to. 386 00:25:14,810 --> 00:25:15,880 - You have to. 387 00:25:15,910 --> 00:25:17,640 - Yeah, I always say that every job here 388 00:25:17,670 --> 00:25:19,616 pays ten bucks an hour whether you're the attorney, 389 00:25:19,640 --> 00:25:21,640 or the barista, or the janitor. 390 00:25:21,670 --> 00:25:24,640 So you're going to have to work a lot of different jobs 391 00:25:24,680 --> 00:25:25,796 to make it because it's expensive to live here. 392 00:25:25,820 --> 00:25:27,820 - Right. Look, this is a small town. 393 00:25:27,850 --> 00:25:30,650 - 1,800 people. - It seems an unlikely place 394 00:25:30,680 --> 00:25:33,690 to put in a spanking-new public radio station 395 00:25:33,720 --> 00:25:35,620 that's heard all over Texas, yes? 396 00:25:35,650 --> 00:25:36,736 - Well, that's exactly right. 397 00:25:36,760 --> 00:25:38,590 I mean, your expenses for running 398 00:25:38,620 --> 00:25:40,620 a 100,000 watt transmitter on the top of a mountain 399 00:25:40,660 --> 00:25:42,606 that gets struck by lightning every three weeks or... 400 00:25:42,630 --> 00:25:43,876 - It's pretty tough. - Yeah, uh-huh. 401 00:25:43,900 --> 00:25:45,730 - But the station has support 402 00:25:45,770 --> 00:25:47,670 from pretty much everybody here. 403 00:25:47,700 --> 00:25:49,366 Everybody listens to the radio on their pickup truck. 404 00:25:49,390 --> 00:25:51,390 The only other news source we have around here 405 00:25:51,430 --> 00:25:52,840 is the local newspaper. 406 00:25:52,880 --> 00:25:54,360 - What are the big issues? 407 00:25:54,400 --> 00:25:55,810 What do people want to talk about? 408 00:25:55,850 --> 00:25:57,640 - The issue is border trade. 409 00:25:57,680 --> 00:26:00,610 And there's a lot of fear right now because the idea 410 00:26:00,640 --> 00:26:01,780 of changing NAFTA. 411 00:26:01,820 --> 00:26:04,750 - American parts assembled in Mexico come back here. 412 00:26:04,790 --> 00:26:06,620 - Yeah, that's part of the NAFTA thing. 413 00:26:06,650 --> 00:26:08,386 You can take it, have it here, take it over there, 414 00:26:08,410 --> 00:26:10,620 assemble it, bring it back, there's no tax. 415 00:26:10,650 --> 00:26:11,946 Assembling has been good for our community. 416 00:26:11,970 --> 00:26:13,806 There's a mobile home factory called Solitaire. 417 00:26:13,830 --> 00:26:15,620 You see them all over here, people buy them. 418 00:26:15,660 --> 00:26:16,706 They take the stuff down there, 419 00:26:16,730 --> 00:26:18,630 they assemble the homes down there, 420 00:26:18,660 --> 00:26:19,946 then they bring them up the road... 421 00:26:19,970 --> 00:26:21,676 You'll see two or three come up the highway today. 422 00:26:21,700 --> 00:26:22,776 - And who's buying those things? 423 00:26:22,800 --> 00:26:24,390 - Everybody who's working class. 424 00:26:24,430 --> 00:26:27,640 The manufactured housing is the craftsman home 425 00:26:27,670 --> 00:26:28,740 of the 21st century. 426 00:26:28,780 --> 00:26:31,640 - It appears that Marfa, in particular, 427 00:26:31,680 --> 00:26:33,780 is going to be a tourist and service economy. 428 00:26:33,820 --> 00:26:35,710 There is money flooding in here. 429 00:26:35,750 --> 00:26:38,410 It is an irresistible tide. 430 00:26:38,440 --> 00:26:39,790 Is there money trickling down? 431 00:26:39,820 --> 00:26:41,690 Is it spreading out into the community? 432 00:26:41,720 --> 00:26:43,690 - We have jobs here. - You can get a job here. 433 00:26:43,720 --> 00:26:45,736 It's not... as I said, everybody makes $10 an hour here. 434 00:26:45,760 --> 00:26:47,860 But 25 years ago, we had nobody here, 435 00:26:47,900 --> 00:26:49,930 - and it was a dying down, so... - Right. 436 00:26:49,970 --> 00:26:52,730 - You got the cowboys, border patrol. 437 00:26:52,770 --> 00:26:54,466 You got hipsters coming in from out of town. 438 00:26:54,490 --> 00:26:57,670 New York artists wearing weird glasses and white pants. 439 00:26:57,700 --> 00:26:59,810 Maybe we don't understand each other, 440 00:26:59,840 --> 00:27:02,670 but we can all be in at the same place at anytime. 441 00:27:02,710 --> 00:27:03,950 People here are nice. 442 00:27:05,740 --> 00:27:06,966 Everybody wave each other. Todos. 443 00:27:06,990 --> 00:27:08,710 - Ah. 444 00:27:28,110 --> 00:27:30,800 - Thanks for tuning in, everyone. 445 00:27:30,840 --> 00:27:34,460 You're listening to 93.5 KRTS, Marfa public radio. 446 00:27:50,170 --> 00:27:56,790 Oh, dear friend, I know your secret 447 00:27:56,830 --> 00:28:00,940 But I just can't keep it 448 00:28:00,970 --> 00:28:02,870 Another night 449 00:28:02,900 --> 00:28:04,940 - This is what the Mexican people end up living 450 00:28:04,980 --> 00:28:07,080 once they leave their [indistinct]. 451 00:28:07,120 --> 00:28:11,740 The projects. The low-income housing. 452 00:28:11,780 --> 00:28:15,020 - In the morning 453 00:28:15,050 --> 00:28:18,990 You will pay for what you've done 454 00:28:19,020 --> 00:28:21,750 - Hola, Ramona. - Como esta? 455 00:28:21,790 --> 00:28:23,990 Dos burritos, por favor. De asado. 456 00:28:24,030 --> 00:28:27,070 Mm-hmm, por favor. 457 00:28:30,900 --> 00:28:32,040 Que rico. 458 00:28:32,070 --> 00:28:34,000 Gracias, Ramona. 459 00:28:36,080 --> 00:28:38,110 - You... You've been riding horses? 460 00:28:38,150 --> 00:28:40,770 - Yes, you noticed. - Yes. 461 00:28:40,800 --> 00:28:42,910 - The groan as I sit down. 462 00:28:42,940 --> 00:28:44,980 Mmm, that is a serious burrito. 463 00:28:45,020 --> 00:28:46,980 - No rice and all that. - Uh-uh. 464 00:28:47,020 --> 00:28:48,980 - This is the real deal, man. - I love it. 465 00:28:49,020 --> 00:28:51,120 Were you born... You were born in Mexico City. 466 00:28:51,160 --> 00:28:54,850 - I was a fisherman in Alaska for 19 years of my life. 467 00:28:54,890 --> 00:28:56,920 - Oh yeah? - In the Bering Sea. 468 00:28:56,960 --> 00:28:59,860 - Now, is it Ado-bee or Ado-beh? 469 00:28:59,890 --> 00:29:00,960 - Ado-beh. - Adobe. 470 00:29:01,000 --> 00:29:04,900 - And you recorded a saying, "Adobe is political." 471 00:29:04,930 --> 00:29:07,000 - Yes. You're going to start with that question. 472 00:29:07,040 --> 00:29:09,000 - Yeah. I'm interested. 473 00:29:13,980 --> 00:29:17,810 - Straw, clay, water, and manure. 474 00:29:17,840 --> 00:29:19,570 That's what makes the adobe. 475 00:29:19,600 --> 00:29:21,880 We make a flat surface here where we're going to put 476 00:29:21,910 --> 00:29:23,850 the water and the manure on top. 477 00:29:23,880 --> 00:29:27,820 Adobe building has happened all over the world 478 00:29:27,850 --> 00:29:29,580 for thousands of years. 479 00:29:36,550 --> 00:29:41,070 Here, historically, the adobe has been kept alive 480 00:29:41,110 --> 00:29:44,180 by the Mexican and Mexican American populations. 481 00:29:59,570 --> 00:30:04,200 The tradition of the adobe, it's barely alive 482 00:30:04,230 --> 00:30:07,200 because of what's happening with the gentrification 483 00:30:07,240 --> 00:30:08,890 in Marfa. 484 00:30:08,930 --> 00:30:13,070 The Mexican American minorities are being displaced. 485 00:30:13,100 --> 00:30:16,210 The people who have lived in adobes for generations 486 00:30:16,240 --> 00:30:19,140 have to sell their homes because of the new taxes. 487 00:30:19,180 --> 00:30:21,940 Taxes that are only in adobes, you know? 488 00:30:21,970 --> 00:30:26,010 A lot of us, we also find discriminating. 489 00:30:35,920 --> 00:30:38,130 We are at a critical point. 490 00:30:41,440 --> 00:30:44,650 When I think about adobe, 491 00:30:44,690 --> 00:30:49,140 it's probably the oldest, tangible representation 492 00:30:49,170 --> 00:30:52,140 of the local, original culture that we have. 493 00:31:42,540 --> 00:31:46,090 - Everybody, for generations, they have crossed 494 00:31:46,130 --> 00:31:50,060 the Rio Grande back and forth by just walking. 495 00:31:53,410 --> 00:31:56,970 The river was low and they would just cross, 496 00:31:57,000 --> 00:32:00,970 go buy some groceries, and then go back. 497 00:32:08,080 --> 00:32:10,080 - All right y'all, [indistinct] time. 498 00:32:10,120 --> 00:32:13,190 Molly Ferguson from [indistinct] Presidio, Texas. 499 00:32:13,220 --> 00:32:15,260 This is Marfa public radio. 500 00:33:11,420 --> 00:33:14,150 - Very low crime here. - Yeah, I mean, 501 00:33:14,180 --> 00:33:17,050 Ojinaga defies so many of the things 502 00:33:17,080 --> 00:33:19,080 that people say about the border. 503 00:33:19,120 --> 00:33:22,090 You know, my daughter spends a lot of time in Ojinaga. 504 00:33:22,120 --> 00:33:25,190 My daughter, and, you know, some people it's like, "What?" 505 00:33:25,230 --> 00:33:27,810 But, I mean, I don't... I don't go to sleep at night 506 00:33:27,850 --> 00:33:30,400 wondering if she's okay, 'cause I know she's okay. 507 00:33:30,440 --> 00:33:34,270 - She's at home. - Yeah, yeah. 508 00:33:34,300 --> 00:33:36,820 The interesting thing about this restaurant is they don't 509 00:33:36,860 --> 00:33:39,860 just serve your typical Mexican enchilada plate. 510 00:33:39,900 --> 00:33:42,140 So a lot of kind of traditional recipes. 511 00:33:42,170 --> 00:33:44,210 - Oh, I know they do meat here in a big way, yeah? 512 00:33:44,250 --> 00:33:45,420 - Yeah. 513 00:33:52,250 --> 00:33:56,360 So welcome to good old Presidio and... and Ojinaga. 514 00:33:56,400 --> 00:33:58,290 - Other side of the river, 515 00:33:58,330 --> 00:34:00,160 you are currently the mayor of Presidio. 516 00:34:00,190 --> 00:34:04,160 - Yes, sir. - And you are former mayor of... 517 00:34:04,200 --> 00:34:05,230 - Ojinaga. 518 00:34:08,550 --> 00:34:11,380 - You know, when we talk about sister cities, that's serious. 519 00:34:11,410 --> 00:34:13,170 - Oh, yeah. Yeah. 520 00:34:13,210 --> 00:34:15,410 - It's almost like an arbitrary line through them. 521 00:34:15,450 --> 00:34:17,256 - On the weekends, Presidio just kind of empties out. 522 00:34:17,280 --> 00:34:19,426 You say, "Where is everybody?" It's 'cause they're here. 523 00:34:19,450 --> 00:34:23,250 So, I mean that's kind of why... when there's talk about 524 00:34:23,280 --> 00:34:25,870 a border wall, I was like, "Whoa, wait, wait!" 525 00:34:25,910 --> 00:34:28,360 We're basically just one town here. 526 00:34:37,370 --> 00:34:40,230 - Now, you can come over here. 527 00:34:40,270 --> 00:34:42,340 Your boyfriend can't come over there? 528 00:34:42,370 --> 00:34:44,130 - No. - Not yet. 529 00:34:44,170 --> 00:34:45,416 - That... that's not too friendly. 530 00:34:45,440 --> 00:34:48,170 What's up with that? And how come? Why not? 531 00:34:59,460 --> 00:35:02,940 - A good person. - I'm a person, you know? 532 00:35:02,980 --> 00:35:05,150 - So, you don't... - You would need a visa? 533 00:35:05,190 --> 00:35:07,160 I mean, what's the problem that you can't go back 534 00:35:07,190 --> 00:35:09,430 and forth for the day? Or for two days? 535 00:35:09,470 --> 00:35:11,500 - No. We did the process and everything 536 00:35:11,540 --> 00:35:13,920 for him to, at least, get a visitor s visa. 537 00:35:13,960 --> 00:35:16,440 He went on a bus that took him to Juarez, 538 00:35:16,480 --> 00:35:19,170 which is four hours away? 539 00:35:19,200 --> 00:35:21,450 - Yeah... no, ten hours away. - Ten hours on a bus. 540 00:35:21,480 --> 00:35:24,170 Okay, and then he had to wait in a line. 541 00:35:24,210 --> 00:35:25,930 Four hours, like, waiting. 542 00:35:25,970 --> 00:35:28,310 And then the interview took, like, two minutes? 543 00:35:28,350 --> 00:35:30,940 - Almost, almost. - And they just put "denied." 544 00:35:30,970 --> 00:35:32,326 - Denied? - They didn't even... denied. 545 00:35:32,350 --> 00:35:34,250 - Meanwhile, you live right... - Yeah. 546 00:35:34,290 --> 00:35:35,536 - Like, within a mile of each other. 547 00:35:35,560 --> 00:35:37,940 - He has no bad record, nothing, you know? 548 00:35:37,980 --> 00:35:39,956 And we're best friends, you know? And... and I wish 549 00:35:39,980 --> 00:35:45,370 he could come over to my house and just see it, you know? 550 00:35:45,400 --> 00:35:48,400 - The state of Texas is so much more diverse 551 00:35:48,440 --> 00:35:51,270 than it used to be, and I think it makes it just... 552 00:35:51,300 --> 00:35:52,990 - Better. - Much... oh, yeah. 553 00:35:53,030 --> 00:35:55,340 And I know some people, that scares them, 554 00:35:55,380 --> 00:35:57,496 and I don't... I think it's just a fear of the unknown. 555 00:35:57,520 --> 00:36:00,520 It's not a fear based on anything concrete. 556 00:36:00,550 --> 00:36:04,180 Here, we're all family. 557 00:36:08,460 --> 00:36:11,190 - Salud - Saludo. 558 00:36:53,710 --> 00:36:55,540 - This is Santa Elena Canyon. 559 00:36:55,570 --> 00:36:57,270 Big Bend National Park, 560 00:36:57,300 --> 00:36:59,540 the largest national park in Texas, 561 00:36:59,580 --> 00:37:03,440 and it's named after the Big Bend in the Rio Grande. 562 00:37:04,820 --> 00:37:08,550 We are surrounded by 1,500-foot limestone cliffs. 563 00:37:08,590 --> 00:37:11,280 This slowly rows up and then the river just 564 00:37:11,310 --> 00:37:12,750 cut through it for millions of years. 565 00:37:50,840 --> 00:37:54,530 - Ready? - Whoa! 566 00:38:07,720 --> 00:38:10,440 - It looks good. 567 00:38:12,720 --> 00:38:15,620 - Doing a good job on the food. 568 00:38:15,650 --> 00:38:17,620 - Cheers. - Thank you guys. 569 00:38:17,660 --> 00:38:19,490 - Salud. - Salud. 570 00:38:19,520 --> 00:38:21,536 - So, you're looking at Texas and I'm looking at Mexico. 571 00:38:21,560 --> 00:38:23,520 - Yes. - 100% correct, yeah. 572 00:38:23,560 --> 00:38:26,110 The cliffs on our left are Mexico 573 00:38:26,150 --> 00:38:27,646 and the ones on our right are, uh, the United States. 574 00:38:27,670 --> 00:38:30,500 I've been on several overnights where your clients 575 00:38:30,530 --> 00:38:33,120 almost forget that, yeah, that's Mexico right there. 576 00:38:33,150 --> 00:38:34,516 And they say, "Wait, is that Mexico?" 577 00:38:34,540 --> 00:38:36,500 And it's like, "Yeah, it... it is." 578 00:38:36,540 --> 00:38:39,510 - Looks exactly the same as that. - Yeah. 579 00:38:39,540 --> 00:38:41,136 - We get people from all over the country, 580 00:38:41,160 --> 00:38:42,516 all over the world, and some of them come in 581 00:38:42,540 --> 00:38:44,510 hesitant or scared of the border. 582 00:38:44,550 --> 00:38:46,176 - When they book the trip, they say, "Should I bring my gun?" 583 00:38:46,200 --> 00:38:47,456 - Right. - But the neat thing is that 584 00:38:47,480 --> 00:38:50,520 everyone I've taken out, you get to see this transformation 585 00:38:50,550 --> 00:38:52,666 from being, like, terrified to thinking it's beautiful 586 00:38:52,690 --> 00:38:54,620 to thinking they don't need a wall to thinking, 587 00:38:54,660 --> 00:38:56,536 "I'm actually going to write a letter saying that 588 00:38:56,560 --> 00:38:58,460 - we don't need a wall." - Right. 589 00:38:58,490 --> 00:39:00,536 Does anyone ever bother to... I mean, are there, like, 590 00:39:00,560 --> 00:39:03,460 scary gunboats coming up and down this river, uh? 591 00:39:03,500 --> 00:39:05,476 - I mean, I think the border patrol technically does have 592 00:39:05,500 --> 00:39:07,476 a hovercraft that they've used once and it was horrible. 593 00:39:07,500 --> 00:39:08,616 - Park Service does too. - Yeah. 594 00:39:08,640 --> 00:39:10,640 - They have helicopters. - For the record, 595 00:39:10,670 --> 00:39:13,610 I don't understand why Mexico is made to be such an issue. 596 00:39:13,640 --> 00:39:16,610 I mean, it's our second biggest trade partner aside from China. 597 00:39:16,650 --> 00:39:18,726 - What about the Canadians? - They're actually pouring across 598 00:39:18,750 --> 00:39:20,620 our borders and stealing our jobs. 599 00:39:20,650 --> 00:39:23,580 - They are taking our jobs! - Find a non-Canadian comedian. 600 00:39:23,620 --> 00:39:26,620 How many Canadians play hockey in the United States 601 00:39:26,660 --> 00:39:28,210 for a U.S. team? 602 00:39:28,240 --> 00:39:30,420 - Those are high paying jobs that Americans... 603 00:39:30,450 --> 00:39:31,420 - They're stealing! - They're stealing them. 604 00:39:31,450 --> 00:39:33,730 - They're stealing our jobs. 605 00:39:33,770 --> 00:39:35,706 - I mean, there are so many avenues that the conversation 606 00:39:35,730 --> 00:39:38,770 go to where violence comes from, where dangers come from. 607 00:39:38,810 --> 00:39:40,500 - Well, even our small towns here. 608 00:39:40,530 --> 00:39:41,746 I mean, crazy stuff happens everywhere. 609 00:39:41,770 --> 00:39:44,500 - The world is made a better place by little bits at a time. 610 00:39:44,540 --> 00:39:46,710 You can't just jam though it all in one year 611 00:39:46,750 --> 00:39:48,440 and say it's fixed. 612 00:39:48,470 --> 00:39:49,586 - You know, I've been to a few places 613 00:39:49,610 --> 00:39:51,650 - where they do have a wall. - Yeah. 614 00:39:51,680 --> 00:39:56,510 - Few things are uglier in the entire world, 615 00:39:56,550 --> 00:39:58,520 of all of the places I've seen, 616 00:39:58,550 --> 00:40:00,590 few things have been more of an indication 617 00:40:00,620 --> 00:40:05,730 of an utter failure of otherwise smart people 618 00:40:05,760 --> 00:40:09,630 to figure shit out. 619 00:40:09,660 --> 00:40:13,250 Thank you for showing me this amazing, amazing... 620 00:40:13,290 --> 00:40:16,460 I mean, just ludicrously amazing place. 621 00:40:22,780 --> 00:40:25,540 - My son John was tall and slim 622 00:40:25,580 --> 00:40:29,580 And we had a leg for every limb 623 00:40:29,620 --> 00:40:31,480 - Ohh! 624 00:40:31,510 --> 00:40:33,690 - But now he's got no legs at all 625 00:40:33,720 --> 00:40:36,550 For he ran a race with a cannon ball 626 00:40:36,590 --> 00:40:39,490 Timmy roo dun da, fadda riddle da 627 00:40:39,520 --> 00:40:42,730 Whack fo' the riddle Timmy roo dun da 628 00:41:04,750 --> 00:41:07,830 - There are a certain type of people who connect immediately 629 00:41:07,860 --> 00:41:11,550 to the empty spaces. 630 00:41:20,110 --> 00:41:22,810 - I can't spend much time on myself 631 00:41:22,840 --> 00:41:24,810 If I'm alone in my apartment in New York 632 00:41:24,840 --> 00:41:26,670 or on a beach with a hammock. 633 00:41:26,710 --> 00:41:28,610 I'd like to think I'll be able to relax, 634 00:41:28,640 --> 00:41:32,680 but I can't. 635 00:41:32,710 --> 00:41:35,340 There's that enforced sense of humility, 636 00:41:35,370 --> 00:41:39,820 'cause you really know how utterly powerless you are. 637 00:41:39,860 --> 00:41:42,310 You're just tiny.